1 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Welcome to Young Voices for Christ, 2 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,280 a podcast brought to you by a passionate group of young adults from Crofton Park 3 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:18,320 Baptist Church here in South London in Brooklyn. 4 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,360 Here they come together to share their faith, explore life's 5 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,680 big questions, and celebrate the journey of following Christ. 6 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,600 Join them as they delve into inspiring stories, engaging 7 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,760 discussions and heartfelt reflections, 8 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,120 all aimed at encouraging and uplifting your walk with God. 9 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,280 Whether you're seeking spiritual growth, community or just a dose of inspiration, 10 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,760 Young Voices for Christ is here to light your path. 11 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,400 Good afternoon. 12 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,160 This is, Clement and today we're going to be talking 13 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,000 about dealing with stress and anxiety from a Christian perspective. 14 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,320 Today is going to be just a discussion with myself and Ope is with me. 15 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,280 So we're just going to, first of all, start with, 16 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,280 that'll be looking at things along the lines of everyday challenges. 17 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,120 And, it's just to set the show. 18 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,200 I just want to read a short verse from first Peter five seven 19 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,200 which says, cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you. 20 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,800 So I don't know about you. 21 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:27,720 Is this a subject you feel that you 22 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,720 that resonates with you? 23 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,640 In a sense, yes. 24 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:39,200 Because even though consciously, I don't necessarily feel stressed 25 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,560 on the day to day understanding for sure that it does 26 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,560 manifest, in many different ways. 27 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,160 So, for instance, perhaps you feel tense, me as well. 28 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,880 I think a lot of things, even though I would say worry, 29 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,360 I do have to overthink some things. 30 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,240 And sometimes when you think about those things and not taking time 31 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,600 to actually be still sometimes and you can and, 32 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,480 processing your body and your mind, feeling a bit fatigued. 33 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,880 So in a sense, those relate to me. 34 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,080 In the sense that because of that, because of that, 35 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:16,560 I do try and take active steps to be still, to evolve. 36 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,640 Whether it's reading, whether it's playing or meditating 37 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:22,640 or exercising to relieve any stress. 38 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,600 But, yeah, I definitely do relate 39 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,400 to the subject of, you know, how to manage stress and what not. 40 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,800 Because even though it's not even a, so I feel stressed, I know that 41 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:34,400 your body doesn't lie. 42 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,480 And sometimes, even if it's a you might feel is due to medical things 43 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,720 you might be thinking about or concerned about on the day to day. 44 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,200 But I just wanted to, what's become in kind of a society 45 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,320 now that talks a lot about anxiety and stress. 46 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,920 And I'm just wondering if it really used to be like this. 47 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,560 Maybe people are recognizing that, well, maybe society's going to change 48 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,120 because when we when I think about maybe triggers for me. 49 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:02,880 But like, you know, 50 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,880 maybe I'll just wake up in the middle of the night and things like that. 51 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,640 It's usually happens because, 52 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,640 I've got time to think about these things, I guess. 53 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,840 Sometimes I'm paralyzed. 54 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,040 So I just wonder if my if if I was doing 55 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,440 something with my hands or something physical. 56 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,640 I just wonder if I'd be as anxious. 57 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,920 So, I mean, the kind of look we have here. 58 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,960 Nowadays, where you front of the computer, you've got all the time in your phone, 59 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,520 and someone's always asking you to get something done. 60 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,080 Maybe like 75% of all of these things actually contribute or Landsman. 61 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,080 So it's it's it's like this. 62 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,960 I do think so I would agree, I think nowadays with what's bombarded 63 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,960 by a lot of very trivial things and trivial 64 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,000 concerns to a point where 65 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,040 we all 66 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,880 focusing too much energy into things that don't necessarily 67 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:06,240 match on or conducive or both of us would, as you said, you know, when you're busy, 68 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:10,080 you don't really have time to be pondering, you know? 69 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,640 I don't the nights and about certain things most okay, 70 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,640 what's the task and what has been accomplished today? 71 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,960 You've got your plan, and then you're busy doing that. 72 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,920 But in this age with, you know, social media, 73 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:24,320 well, 74 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,240 many of the things that we see on TV, especially with more generation, younger 75 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,960 generation telling us how to do this, get this quickly. 76 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:35,360 Chase this car, chase this job, 77 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,880 you know, for guys, maybe chase that woman or try and get this. 78 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,200 There's so much of being constantly inundated with, I think, 79 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,600 as you said, it does paralyze us. 80 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,880 So I honestly think the change is more so. 81 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,280 We've been bombarded by a lot of things that are rather trivial. 82 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,720 And so instead of actually occupying ourselves or doing things 83 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,680 or conducive and, you know, not being idle, so to speak, we've 84 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,760 we've become kind of burdened with all these things 85 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,240 that in the world that we're being told that we should be attaining. 86 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,040 That's how I see it. 87 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:09,480 Yeah. 88 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:10,200 I mean, I agree. 89 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,520 I'm just wondering, actually, as part of the topic 90 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:18,920 we're talking about as well, how did Jesus himself, handle pressure? 91 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:22,840 Because if you think about it as a human, 92 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,720 as a human being, very famous human beings raising from the dead, 93 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,720 he's turned water into wine and stuff like that. 94 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,160 Being so famous for people pushing all the time, 95 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,160 human, human, you know, Satan and all that kind of stuff. 96 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,800 As a man, that would have been quite, 97 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,880 stressful, I think, for him. 98 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,640 So I'm just having the, 99 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,880 some things that Jesus did. 100 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,200 Thing one, I think he always tends to 101 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,760 withdraw to a quiet place to pray 102 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,400 for guidance and pressure. 103 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,280 One of the, pressure? Yeah. Those ones, 104 00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:05,480 I guess. 105 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:05,680 Yeah. 106 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,960 So I also think there's this thing about trusting in God's plan. 107 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,800 Because if you think about it, 108 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,800 some of the things that maybe make us anxious is usually 109 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,800 when we haven't got a plan, 110 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,000 we haven't actually mapped out, what's the day going to look like? 111 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,160 What am I going to get done? 112 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,480 And so on, so forth. 113 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,480 Yeah. 114 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,640 Yeah. 115 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,400 Praise as well, I think kind of listens to 116 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:36,960 those on radio. 117 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,880 The other day there was a program on radio four where they were talking about 118 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:45,440 how music is actually quite the same thing that, although in different cultures, 119 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,720 whatever people call the healing process was chanting 120 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,840 and dancing and moving around and stuff like that. 121 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,440 But you can imagine what it must be like if you just when you go to church and you, 122 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,080 feeling a certain way, you really get to praise. 123 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,960 It does help to lift the spirits. 124 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,440 It does, it does, it does. 125 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,560 Like one of my one of my favorite, praise songs is, 126 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,680 no weapon formed against me, but these are also. 127 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,000 That's a lovely, lovely song. 128 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,160 And it's true. 129 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Praise and worship. 130 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,280 It really does lift the spirits. 131 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,680 I mean, it's meant to, you know, encourage and, you know, lift up each other, 132 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:31,440 you know, and come together to, to worship and to honor God. 133 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,640 It definitely does, refocus us 134 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,200 in terms of what I really should be or I'm not so concerned 135 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,840 or any sort of importance because, as you said, you know, when we 136 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,640 when we don't was so focused on not having a plan, 137 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,760 you know, in front of us to do we do concentrate 138 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,960 anxiety and become stressed because of that. 139 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:59,800 But as you said, it's about, trying to, you know, follow God's plan, trying 140 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,280 to hearken into what he wants for us and and letting him actually take control. 141 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,640 And it's very hard to do as human beings because we love to be in control, 142 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,320 because that gives us security. 143 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,320 So the hundred percent, you know, you're right. 144 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,040 That's what I was even thinking that like I say, trusting in the plan 145 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,800 and also having 146 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:19,440 having that work, 147 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:25,520 to keep you occupied because as Jesus said so many times in, these verses 148 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,600 when he was questioned about, you know, are you doing his weight in that? 149 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,960 I'm about my father's work. 150 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,560 So he's there's a plan to, you know, plan to do so. 151 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:37,040 It isn't to worry about that. 152 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,040 So he just has to do the work the Lord has given us. 153 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,720 So I think that was, that does help. 154 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,040 I'm just, I'm also thinking as well about, 155 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,440 you know, the practical things that we can do. 156 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,080 So I was told about praying when I choose, and, 157 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,280 I think journaling as well might be another good one. 158 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,280 I don't know if that's something you've ever tried doing. 159 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,840 It's actually funny enough, is something I started doing. 160 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:07,200 But last year, like on summer time, I'm going to consistent with that, 161 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:10,320 trying to get back into it. 162 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,760 But when I was journaling, 163 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,360 it was definitely help because I was thinking about me to journal. 164 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,320 And when I start to do it and I'm actually, 165 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,760 I have, you know, to pay for, you know, my thoughts, my my concerns. 166 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,800 You know, what God has done for me, what I'm studying for us. 167 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,760 You always have a reference point for what 168 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,760 God brought you through and what God can bring you through. 169 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:36,880 I think it's so important. 170 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,840 Always remember that, like, you know, it talks about in the Scripture 171 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,920 in Old Testament about there's one that's always been taught to remember, 172 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:43,960 to write things down. 173 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,000 I remember, you know, of the ancestors and what he. 174 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:47,360 Yeah. 175 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,040 So, sister, 176 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,920 it's really important to have that reference point 177 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,000 because you could easily get swamped by that. 178 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 Now, in terms of what's happening in the flesh, 179 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,120 you might forget what God's actually was. So 180 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,280 I think journaling is definitely 181 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,880 a great way to alleviate stress 182 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:10,280 and anxiety and, just to actually have your thoughts 183 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,600 on paper, it's easier for yourself anyway when you actually written something down. 184 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,640 That's good and actually kind of links. 185 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,280 That actually leads on to a kind of ideas. 186 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,800 Gratitude is 187 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,120 the power of gratitude can actually shift perspectives. 188 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,360 So if you're anxious about something and you're thinking about something 189 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,720 you haven't done or haven't got or, so you can't achieve, 190 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,720 but then maybe, like I say, through journaling, 191 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,760 you kind of shift the perspective to, what I've been able to achieve. 192 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,720 Look what I've got, you know, that can also reduce anxiety. 193 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,320 So that's I don't know, speaking as a 50 something year old, 194 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,400 is it 195 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,400 do you see the as a, as part of the younger generation? 196 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,040 You have a lot more to worry about that there's lots not just the immediate 197 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,600 things around you, but also all the stuff that you get constantly fed 198 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:11,120 on the news from climate change to the in office and stuff like that. 199 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,640 That's a good question, uncle. 200 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:18,440 Honestly, how I see it truly is, you know, this isn't 201 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,400 nothing new under the sun. 202 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,840 So ultimately, the general struggles 203 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,680 we face as human beings in the flesh isn't actually hasn't actually changed. 204 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,040 One thing has happened is there's just a lot more present 205 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,560 that we're being told to concern ourselves with and to worry about. 206 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,760 And because of technology, our false information 207 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,240 transfers, is really across the world. 208 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:48,440 Things arrive, things we trusted far sooner than they would have 209 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,440 maybe 50 years ago, a hundred years ago. 210 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:55,160 But the overall concern necessarily different. 211 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,720 I just think that we're being inundated by so much. 212 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,760 And so maybe the problems aren't 213 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,800 necessarily different, but more so 214 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,000 our approach to actually dealing with them is, for instance, if 215 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,280 all I 216 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,920 see is if you knew your, you know, your enemy, 217 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,440 but you're facing some sort of enemy and you know, okay, 218 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,320 you're not to reside in the area and and it will come over, 219 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:24,080 they'll breach you and like, you know, ten days, then at least you're aware of. 220 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,280 Okay, I know the enemies, you know, attribute. 221 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,680 So I know what strategies are I prepare, you know, for ten days. 222 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:32,160 But in this generation, 223 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,360 because of what's around us, things a lot more present enemies. 224 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:36,920 Let's see what things about more present. 225 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,680 So I see is the way in which we deal with things to be a lot more, 226 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:44,000 which take a lot of action 227 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,800 much sooner in terms of, you know, combating what we, we hear, what 228 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,920 we're dealing with as opposed to, 229 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,320 you know, 50 years ago, hundred years ago. 230 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:55,400 So that's how I see it. 231 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,880 Essentially what I'm saying is what other humbling is, the enemy 232 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,240 and the challenges are the same, but how we approach 233 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,240 them is to be a bit more different because of how present 234 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,360 those challenges are. 235 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,280 You know, so true. Yeah. 236 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,080 And like I said, I mean, everything we've we have all these conversations now 237 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,320 past nine episodes, and I think we all talk about how this digital age 238 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,560 kind of accelerates everything, just, amplifies things. 239 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,800 And you're right now, I think because, of algorithms and everything, 240 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,640 we are told what we should consider as important. 241 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,040 So I guess the question is probably important. 242 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,440 Like, I know you always pray for this group discernment. 243 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,240 I think it's really important to 244 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,440 continue to have that kind of prayer, because then you can see 245 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,640 what is and what isn't important. 246 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,760 I want to see the end of Renewal testaments. 247 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,120 And I've been going through the prophets 248 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,000 and I've mixed up all the different verses of them myself. 249 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,760 Oh, I should really make a note of that, because there are some there where 250 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:56,560 it talks about, 251 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,760 I, you know, it was and John was saying, 252 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,840 I talks about God blinding people to the truth 253 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:09,320 because of the reluctance to kind of you said they will, not because of that, 254 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,280 they will not, see the truth, but impressively slaps them in the face. 255 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,880 So when you look at, things around that, people are saying, 256 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,720 this is important, you must you must, pay attention to this. 257 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,280 I'm thinking of, 258 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,840 but the first thing to cross my mind 259 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,840 at the moment is Elon Musk, to be honest, because 260 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,840 he doesn't want to metrics everything he tweets as newsworthy. 261 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,400 I mean, to control not everything in tweets as newsworthy. 262 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,400 There are people, 263 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,600 dying in other parts of the world. 264 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,680 There's big companies, listen, people, 265 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,880 there's logging still going on the Amazon basin and all sorts of things. 266 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,040 But we are, we're not at the summit. 267 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,360 We are slaves to the screen space of one person's Twitter account. 268 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,760 This is something I think we need to 269 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:02,920 really just pray for that, to serve and to know what's really important 270 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,120 or to preserve what you were saying. 271 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,360 I remember this one quite heard recently, actually, a couple of years ago, 272 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,880 I was like, you know, the elixir of this century would be the ones that, 273 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,240 I'm able to read or write, but 274 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,920 people, they'll be unable to, you know, learn and unlearn certain things. 275 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,320 And to recognize, you know, the agenda of what's being pushed towards them. 276 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,320 I remember, you know, talk to us long time ago about how, 277 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,480 you know, when it comes to the news, you listen to your work or, 278 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,960 or sources from, you know, what's the agenda behind it 279 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,160 and what the spirit behind it in terms of what they're trying to tell us. 280 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,400 And is it actually edifying? 281 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:45,760 Is it actually, leading us, you know, towards God and is actually true? 282 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,960 And as you talked about and as we talked about, 283 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,080 you know, today, right now, I think that this understanding 284 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,160 is, is so important because, you know, and it says those things like, 285 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,800 you know, crowd in line and we have to be constantly vigilant. 286 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,360 And now more than ever, really, just really in the woods 287 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,960 and really shine as to what God wants for us. 288 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,800 Because, yeah, it's not about being fearful, 289 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,000 but it's really about being vigilant and not being honest about 290 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,920 what what we're facing. 291 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,080 And when we have an enemy that is trying to deceive us 292 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,080 because this is in the super world, we we know that, 293 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,080 we're dealing with an entity that is seeking to make things that they're not. 294 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,280 And this is a mess with our generation. 295 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,280 The younger people, you know, we don't we don't know much. 296 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,880 I mean, we just got here and I know more younger. 297 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,560 We think we know everything, but we don't. 298 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,120 And I know Satan. 299 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:43,560 I see the arrogance of, okay, 300 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,520 you know, I've been in for like 21 or 25 years. 301 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,600 You know, you're right. You know, you do it. 302 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,400 And we, we, we see this thing of, you know, the youth not really 303 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,560 respecting the, the seniors and the adults in terms of the wisdom expression. 304 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,440 They actually, you know, they have and I think 305 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,640 that is another aspect of when we're talking about, 306 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,560 you know, discernment that factors in we have to be, as younger people, 307 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,760 a little more receptive to what's, seniors 308 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,760 are telling us, just in a sense of 309 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,480 they've passed or they passed or youth, there's insights 310 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,600 into how we navigate things 311 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,960 that will help us, especially since, as we talked about, nothing is new under 312 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:24,360 the sun, 313 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,520 issues and and the battles we face. 314 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,040 I would change most of the context in which they occur. 315 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,440 So, yeah, as we just talked about, 316 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,120 praying for that wisdom, praying for the summit and, 317 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:38,120 leaning on that understanding, I that's really, really important. 318 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,840 It's very odd sometimes not do that 319 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,840 when you're, you're not focused on 320 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,240 what God's plan is for you or when you think you know it all, 321 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,520 especially as younger people tend to move some for a lot. 322 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:54,840 Yeah. 323 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,680 I think the virtue referred to, 324 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,120 I think that you mentioned earlier on the things for Philippians four eight. 325 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,240 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever 326 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,760 things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, 327 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,160 whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report, 328 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,200 if there be any virtue, if there be any praise, think on these things. 329 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,600 And that's a really good recipe for good mental health skills. Yes, 330 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,680 yes, things are going, things are rough I think earlier this week. 331 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,320 But the message say, 332 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,400 it's like it's really depressing trying to find something, actually. 333 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,440 Yeah. 334 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,000 Pleasant to, 335 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:36,920 listen to. 336 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:42,160 Anything you're getting is to soak in news about, Well, you mentioned about you. 337 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,840 I don't give in too much. Really? 338 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,960 What's going on in America? 339 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,720 And, you know, in the Middle East, but, 340 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,760 yeah, if we take that scripture, I think that's really which. 341 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:52,680 That's right. 342 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,680 So in itself, it's a 343 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:58,040 is a good way of stability. 344 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,040 You got your mental health. 345 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,840 I think myself as a Christian is, 346 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,400 faith does complement doesn't replace mental health resources completely. 347 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,640 I mean, exercise is great. 348 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,160 Breathing techniques that you might bring. 349 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,160 Yes, meditation as well, because if you do that to 350 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,120 mostly call it, 351 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:22,120 smell the roses candle for you. 352 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,560 So there's some real silver, 353 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:25,400 breathing through your 354 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,400 nose and through your mouth slowly say a prayer. 355 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,520 Yeah, that can calm the mind, that can focus on the physical activity 356 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,360 of right there and take your mind off whatever it is. 357 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:37,400 It's, 358 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,680 it's kind of kindling. 359 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,880 And I think there's also this kind of stigma around mental health. 360 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,800 I mean, I've got so Baptist Church now, but 361 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,040 I'm just one of those prosperity churches 362 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,640 where, especially, back home where 363 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,040 something's going on in the process. 364 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,200 Like it as well. 365 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,200 Well, thank you so much with the Monty Python sketch with the guys on this, it's. 366 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,160 Oh, it's only a flesh wound. 367 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,680 It's just it's let you know, because. 368 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,480 What, you're not allowed to have a breakdown. 369 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,480 Not allowed to be stressed because you're a Christian. 370 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,000 And I just feel stressed. 371 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,480 You're, what's the word for it? 372 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,800 You know, kind of faith. 373 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,440 So now let's just it's over the, the across the generations. 374 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,760 Or is it just because it's something I noticed when people are supposed to be 375 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:31,320 successful and so far in church, they're not with it going through stuff. 376 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:33,360 And, and faith is a strong enough brother. 377 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,480 Yeah, that's an interesting, point. 378 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,680 And honestly, I, I just mean, do you see the innocence of what 379 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,800 it's almost like what's what's, you know, 380 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,280 we're not meant to feel vulnerable is very, very. 381 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,400 I don't think they're quite what maybe it wasn't necessarily 382 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,840 the most accurate word, but as normal to feel vulnerable and 383 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,040 understand that, you know, we we're not always going to be strong, 384 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:06,440 you know, and, human beings in the flesh won't always be strong all the time. 385 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,440 And that's why, you know, we have, you know, 386 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:13,880 well, when we must also when we're not strong enough. 387 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,160 God is strong for us and also this moment to be. 388 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,840 Well, welcome to our our own strength on, you know, guidance to God 389 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:22,880 and Jesus Christ as well. 390 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,840 So, yeah, the notion that we have to 391 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,680 we're not going to feign this, 392 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,680 you know, it's everything is well, suck it up. 393 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,000 And if you don't, we feel stress or you feel anxiety that, 394 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:41,520 you know, you're you're not trusting God is very, very harmful because, 395 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,560 it's not allowing us to confront 396 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,560 what those, those issues are. 397 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,920 And I think when you're not confronting it, to be honest with 398 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,400 anything in your life, because when it strongholds 399 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,640 or, you know, fears, you know, feelings, then you're leaving a foothold 400 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,720 for those to become, you know, strongholds and yeah, I definitely do agree 401 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,880 that that is something that reducing our generation a bit more especially. 402 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,760 And it is kind of an aside, but, 403 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,280 we're being taught to not show feelings 404 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:21,720 or to not commit to things or to not tell someone you love them or, 405 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:27,200 you know, just just to be human and yeah, I know I'm rambling a bit. 406 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,600 My thought was good on that a bit, but I do agree with you 407 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,600 that it's definitely something that I'm seeing as an issue. 408 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,040 Amongst our generation. 409 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:37,120 So what would you be your kind of advice about? 410 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:38,280 Turn that around. 411 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,680 If people from that kind of have you already of, yeah. 412 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,120 Everyone wants to belong. 413 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,240 Everyone wants to run with the herd. 414 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,920 But some people say they don't want to run, but they want to be. 415 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,600 I want to be unique, end up running with the unique herd. 416 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,600 But how do you get people to change 417 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,800 that kind of way of looking at things? 418 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,720 Good question. 419 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,720 How do we get them to change their perspective? 420 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,720 Well, I think ultimately 421 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,160 I think it starts by recognizing, 422 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,240 first and foremost, you're an individual. 423 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,320 And that's not to say that, you know, 424 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,640 we shouldn't we shouldn't, we should say community 425 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,680 or gathering or whatnot, but I think it's good to understand that, 426 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,320 you know, your your feelings or your own thoughts or your own, 427 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:29,920 and you really have to, think about, 428 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,600 what what what are you 429 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,560 what are you doing or or what thoughts or things you listening to 430 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,000 that are actually edifying to you? 431 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,680 And I'm going to, 432 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,040 should equipping you to to move forward, 433 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,120 you know, with confidence and and in peace. 434 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,880 I think when it comes to you being a believer, first and foremost, 435 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,800 I mean, all religious or, you know, God, entities. 436 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,280 So I think as a believer, at least, it's 437 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,600 taken more time to be introspective and, 438 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,080 you know, praying, meditating on, 439 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,640 what, 440 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,960 what your thoughts are, what you listening to. 441 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,640 And then from there moving forward. 442 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,640 Because I think once you have a solid base in that, then 443 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,000 you just like to be swept away by, 444 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,160 you know, group think or thoughts and you just like, 445 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,200 please feel pressured in terms of conform to some way of thinking 446 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,560 because everyone is thinking or oh, you're less than or you're not. 447 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,800 You're not here if you're not with this crowd or that crowd. 448 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,200 So I think, the core comes from having 449 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,960 that religious record and just start by being selective about 450 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:43,880 what? 451 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,680 What are you listening to? What's feeding you? 452 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,840 And are you are you believing it or thinking it because they're doing so? 453 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,200 Or there's something that you actually, 454 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,680 want to cosign or, you know, and it's 455 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,640 not actually answering the question, but that's the way I perceived it. 456 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,840 I think that's what it does. 457 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,760 Stop by a discussion. Introspection. 458 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,160 Yeah. It's more of a discussion in the interview room. 459 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,560 I was just thinking as well, what you said about, 460 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,720 you know, being introspective 461 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,720 and taking that time out, 462 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,680 usually listen to, sort of the day of the month of the day or something. 463 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,160 I saw the radio for radio two, 464 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,360 depending on whether or not you're Christopher or not. 465 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:31,080 So morning to the radio two one on seven, 15 on radio two. And, 466 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,280 I think this was. 467 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,680 This was, something to do with noise. 468 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,480 The noise, the. 469 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,880 Because that's what we're hearing, though, even about fires or, you know, fights 470 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,880 and wars and elections and all that kind of stuff. 471 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,720 And the it was actually I was talking about, 472 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,680 where is it? 473 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,240 I think it's in King's first King's 1911 to 12. 474 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,240 I, as the Lord said, go out and stand on the mountain 475 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,880 in the presence of the Lord, for the Lord is about to pass by. 476 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,800 And if he goes through these, you know, powerful wind, 477 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,480 you know, the storm surges within 12 miles apart, just the rocks. 478 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,320 But the Lord wasn't in the wind of the windows. 479 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,640 An earthquake on the wall was like, just quick, quick earthquake fire. 480 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,920 Then after the fire came a gentle whisper, 481 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,440 and it was in the still small voice. 482 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,080 That's where it was found. 483 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,520 So all the noises around us. God's made it 484 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,720 so, because it was around us, 485 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,200 we should be focusing on the small, still small voice. 486 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,600 But that's what I called it. That's what it called risks. 487 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,600 And if we do that, then, 488 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,480 cuts down on sizing. 489 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,600 And if Jesus did that and we get so overwhelmed. 490 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,080 This is a quiet place as he knows what God is. Yes. 491 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:55,120 You go inside the walls and talk to people and save them from themselves. 492 00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:00,320 But you know, so God is the still small, still quiet voice. 493 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:05,040 So he goes into the wilderness and he prays and he trusts in God. 494 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,560 He leaves everything to God. 495 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,560 And then finally he praises God. 496 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,200 So about that as well. 497 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,160 And, you know, he just rests in the moment. 498 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,720 And I think to be able to do that is 499 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,840 feels like a comfortable place to be. 500 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,160 I think those as well, like you mentioned earlier on about the Israelites 501 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,080 or these guys are putting themselves and what God did for them in Egypt, those 502 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,440 kind of testimonies and personal stories, they can always encourage people. 503 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,840 Whenever you hear stories about how God helps someone to just see that real, 504 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:40,480 I'm not sure. 505 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,080 I don't do six openings on Instagram. 506 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,840 I know that guy in Los Angeles where everybody's house around him, 507 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,920 but to the ground, 508 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,920 and this was the only house still standing 509 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:52,760 room. 510 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,160 Yeah, I will send you the link when I find it. 511 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,600 Every house around him, 512 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,840 that timber that he has. 513 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,840 And he was getting ready, he was even to the decking outside 514 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,160 that nothing touched it. 515 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,680 Wow. It was like yeah that was there was a bit of smoldering 516 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,080 one part of his garage, but he did the whole, the whole street. 517 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,000 I wasn't like there weren't trees around in the trees around his building. 518 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,440 So when you see that kind of thing out coming out, some mold of that, 519 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,560 that's what he said. This is what I think. 520 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,800 I'll see it posted on, 521 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,360 then WhatsApp on Facebook or Instagram as well, so as you can. 522 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,400 So there's no God. 523 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,400 That's what it was just saying. 524 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,400 It was like almost two years. 525 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,120 Yeah. 526 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,120 Those kind of stories, they kind of listing, they kind of give you that 527 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,360 help you get through tough times. 528 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,480 And they've been quite a few people 529 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,040 have come out to actually been talking about sharing 530 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,720 stories and those kind of stories to encourage. 531 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,720 So people have lost everything or lost their homes and like, well, 532 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,960 I'm still a life that for me speaks of gratitude. 533 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,200 So maybe this ought to be the lens. 534 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,720 There as well as 535 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,840 you can be for sure. 536 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,200 And I do think, yeah, testimonies like that definitely. 537 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,320 Do, you know, encourage us and can encourage us and 538 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,040 as you said, you know, the gratitude perspective 539 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,200 and the mindset is I think it's so important 540 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,960 because it allows us to contextualize what what we're seeing and ultimately, 541 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,400 despite, you know, the claims that come before us in this life, 542 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,040 you know, that is life as much as as good as life as we see there is suffering. 543 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:36,800 But I do think that having that, gratitude, you know, posture, 544 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,520 you know, spirit allows us to, you know, actually see more and more 545 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,960 how much God does for us. 546 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,560 And the fact that we have a lot more to be done for them to do, to complain about, 547 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,400 even though that doesn't always appear as so. 548 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,920 But when we think about, 549 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,480 you know, how much you know God does for us on a daily for the years, 550 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,680 you know, the decades, we do really see that, you know, 551 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,240 we actually, 552 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,040 You know, in, in prosperity. 553 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,600 So, you know, despite, the things that do before us so 554 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,800 hundred percent, I do think that having that growth, 555 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,760 you might say, well, alleviate stress and anxiety. 556 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,280 And actually, most of in a funny way, but is the truth 557 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,640 a more realistic perspective for wildlife actually is. 558 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,800 Yeah. 559 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,040 So yeah, absolutely. 560 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,120 Well, it's been a good half hour. 561 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,960 So in called distortion, it's a shame we couldn't 562 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,960 get the other zone around today, but I it's a business of my, 563 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,160 But anyway we're going to our next episode. 564 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,440 We'll, we'll then start talking a bit more about, social media. 565 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,600 So that'll be another good one to talk about. 566 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,320 And I think not just because 567 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,680 whenever you say social media, people think of the evils of social media, but 568 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,600 everything can be turned out, 569 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,600 for us, those who love him, that's when I see him. 570 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,960 So that's, you know, 571 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,520 let's catch up next week. 572 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,800 Or so then. 573 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,200 Till then.