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Welcome to Young

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of young adults from Crofton Park
Baptist Church here in South London.

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Hello everyone!

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For those who do not know my name.

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My name is Lemara And so today

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our topic is based on idolatry.

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So I'm going to open it
up to the young people.

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And I would like to ask the question of
what do you think?

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Idolatry means I guess I'll go first.

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My name is Opeyemi, and what I believe

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idolatry means is, in a sense,
putting anything,

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whether it's, physical or otherwise,
before God.

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And this can be done in many,
many ways and many different.

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Factors that,

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influence, how we should all treat
and other things that we do

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as those, as, young individuals,
especially this day and age.

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But that's what I thought
really means to me.

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Okay.

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So anything that you put before God,
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it may be physical, spiritual, emotional,
whatever it may be.

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Okay, cool.

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I like that answer.

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Anyone else? Maybe.

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Philippa

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and I would also agree on that definition.

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When you hear the word idolatry,
you kind of think of the biblical sense

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where it was like actual,
like worshiping of the deities and things.

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I feel like in this day and age,
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where there are certain things
that take what finally God speaks.

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If you take up more of our thinking space,
more of, like,

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the more passionate about it
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And I feel like those could also
be forms of idolatry, but

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you have a greater passion for something
with just a greater, importance.

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You place things
higher importance about God.

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Okay, cool.

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Thank you so much, both of you.

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You good?

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Very good.

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Like technical answers.
And one is it is true.

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Idolatry is basically anything
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God and that you play center and I.

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My meaning was that idolatry is anything
you love more than your obedience to God.

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So all sums up.

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Basically,
I think that whatever you put before God

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is basically placed as an idol
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you see it more like,
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very subconscious,
but we do place it more higher than God.

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So then my next question to you both is,

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what do you idolize me?

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Okay. So

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when I was thinking about it,
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what do I generally generally idolize?

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For most people in this,
like in our generation in this age,

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is our phones or media or technology.

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And I was like,
why not? I don't idolize it.

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For example,
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which many of us do,
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the first thing you do is your touch
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touch your iPad, touch your tablet,
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you turn on the TV

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and that's the first thing you do
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I don't really do that because, 
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I lay that, and then I pray
I have to dedicate my day to God.

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So I try to think and think and think
like, what do I really and truly idolize?

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And sometimes it can.

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And then I was realizing that sometimes
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and you're on your phone,
that's also a form of idolatry,

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especially if you haven't
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Another form of idolatry
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would be like vanity yourself.

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I used to be like,
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about my head
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I had to be.

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I had to be on point a certain way.

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Like I didn't want nothing out of place.

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And that's a form of idolatry,
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and God was like,
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No, no, no. Like I look a mess.

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Then that's a hindrance.

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Then that's disobedience.

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And that's me either idolizing myself

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before what God wants
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it could be any examples
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marriages, to your education,

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to your work, to to anything,

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and that is that I probably idolize
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get very invested in any sort of media

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or like book
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and it takes up a lot of my time
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So I feel like in that sense,
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I would probably pick up
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and reading a verse
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And it's not really the first thing
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It's like the same way.

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Phone is an automatic.

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The things that I'll reach for
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the Bible automatically isn't either.

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and I would say as well in.

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Okay cool.

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Thank you for your answer and yes,
I appreciate both of you for sharing.

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What you believe,

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all were your idols and I'd say for me,

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one thing.

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When I was much, much younger,
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idol was gaming and video games.

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I was a little more obsessed with that
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and that would be something
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and not be tentative to just reading
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As of now,
I'd say similar to, for the, for,

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if anything is close to idolatry,
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because I like to do a lot of things,
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research or whatnot, streaming.

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Sometimes those things do take precedence,
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being cognizant of the fact that,
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You know,
what are the fourth foremost, you know,

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on my mind when it comes to activities
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I'm thinking about when I'm waking up
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Or at least I might devote more time
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So for me,
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and sometimes I just, 
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Have I, you know, opened the word today?

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I've, I've,
I take time aside to actually study that.

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And, you know, it's very difficult to do
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However, that's not an excuse.

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So I'd say for me, that's definitely, 
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Okay. Thank you so much for sharing.

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And now I have I've got a third question.

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And that is,
why do you think you idolize like,

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why we don't really call it
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especially the back in the days of Moses

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as well, but with the Israelites,
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and graven images and all these things
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or for things that they have found
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And so we're obviously not bowing down
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but dogs, for example, your,
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your wants or like,
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So like, why do we like as human
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I'd say I do these guys in those because,

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at the core, most of our being
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We'll create some worship.

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So in that sense,
anything we can't help but worship.

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So have we put, you know what?

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If we devote our energy to what we are
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very easy to worship anything,
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So when it comes down to,
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and worshiping, you know,
the things we do, it's just about,

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other sets, you know, thinking about
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On what, what is occupying our spirit,

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throughout the day?

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Yeah, that's
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idolize is because of that commerce power
by nature of being created to worship.

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So therefore we have our energy towards
more because we worship the most.

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I like that answer.

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You see that too? I think especially me.

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But certain things that people like
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so like, you can see immediate

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effects, those things like, exercising.

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If I'm making, like a meal plan
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like, calculating
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what I'm doing to make myself
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I feel like these those results
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like much easier than you can see,
like your spiritual work, you can see,

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but you and I feel like with those things
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but you will have to look a lot deeper
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And things like dope mean
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or you're enjoying like a hobby,
feel that immediate effect.

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Unlike
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look a bit deeper to feel those effects
and see how is benefits of life.

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Okay, cool.

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I really like before your answer is like
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I'm, I'm really enjoying it.

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So so we are creatures who like need

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or who are designed to worship
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or one of our main
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is to literally bow down
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who is Jesus Christ, our God,
who created the heavens and the earth.

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Right?

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So I love that, I love that,
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again, a bit more deeper into it.

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What do you know?

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So you say we also have something

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that we've idolized or or is idolizing.

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And as we know that we're doing this
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because sometimes it's
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or sometimes because by accident or,

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or just because it becomes that,
you know, these things can become a habit.

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So not really a question.

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It's more of like, do you think?

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How can I wear this?

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Do you think that through
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in your personal life,
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in order to stop that?

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Idolization, if that makes sense.

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If that doesn't make sense,
let me know that.

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What do you personally
think you can do to stop that?

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I would say one way

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to probably tackle
that would be even more present, being one

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tension of what you're doing and what's
occupying your mind or your spirit.

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Okay.

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As you mentioned, it can be subconscious.

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We can easily slip into, a habit
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if we're not aware of,
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and of how we how we can be led
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So I'd say be more intentional
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recognizing certain patterns and,
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when you kind of understand why you're
doing something you can analyze.

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Okay, is this conducive for me?

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If I'm saying my goal is to grow

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my walk or to worship God under,
that's my directive.

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Is this actually leading me down
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Is it something that's a hindrance
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not advancing you forward
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so that I send you back.

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So I'd say
being more intentional is a start.

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And hopefully then it's a matter of,
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you pray about, of course.

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And to take steps to,

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put more focus, on worshiping God.

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But yeah, definitely say
being more intentional with our time.

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But how we occupy or spirit
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you also said the word obsession.

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I want you to kind of dive deeper

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into the word obsession
and what you're trying to say.

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So with

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obsession, that's what is quite
an exchange.

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But what I mean by that is essentially

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anything that is

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occupying our mind to an extent where

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it's it's something that's very hard to,

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dismiss or

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compartmentalize.

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Like it's always
the foremost forefront of our mind.

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So, for instance,

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someone crosses over, you know,
as you mentioned earlier on vanities,

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how we look, you're always concerned
about how you look to a point

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where, you know,
you don't feel comfortable enough.

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So in some way, or, for instance,
we constantly are looking ourselves

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in the mirror, an example then, anything
that is at the forefront of our mind,

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we're finding it difficult to,
compartmentalize

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or to, reduce in terms of importance.

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That's what I deem
as something as obsessive.

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I think
that's a really good point as well.

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Oh, it's our nature, but it isn't how

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we should be living in this world.

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I think especially like these things
like bills and health,

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like do find them important.

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But we also have to try and remember
for All Saints that

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these are very temporary things.

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These are things that we can put to do 
in a sense,

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not try to put it all on ourselves,
because when we put it on ourselves,

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then it becomes a kind of obsessive thing,
that thing

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where you're like,
oh, I have to do this myself.

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I have to do this immediately.

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This is the only thing I can think about
is we put these things to God.

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Then,

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that weight is

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kind of lifted, that kind of pressure
that we put on ourselves

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and the thought it would be less like, 
demanding, like,

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this thing in my mind kind of cool,
because we would have to God in a sense.

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Yeah.

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That's a
that's an interesting point especially.

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But you know, just how

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it's not in our

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like design to be obsessive,
but it's just how

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this world is
kind of curate us to be more.

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So it's okay cool cool cool.

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Thanks for that.

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Can I go literally be stopped
by just going to church?

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I do this many, many ways

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to, you know, one of the Lord's.

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We know that for one, our bodies
and our spirits,

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we have a symbiotic relationship.

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So I'd say for one, just simply,
if you're taking steps to,

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improve your health in a way,
then in a sense,

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you're looking after your temple,
which is a good thing.

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And with regards
to ulcers, any specific actions

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like specifically

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such as, you know, praying on of itself

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or going to church in of itself,
they'll stop idolatry.

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But I would say

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a really good way, as I mentioned,

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I mean, with intentionality is I'd
say I start with a desire to.

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And if you do have the desire
to change something,

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then ultimately
you're not going to change it

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and you're not going to be committed
to changing it.

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So I would say more rambling,
but I would say when it comes to,

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stopping idolatry in and of itself,
it has to start with a desire

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to actually want to change or recognize
that there's something that you need to

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change, like, for instance,
you you can't recognize a problem

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or you can't fix a problem until
you recognize that there's a problem.

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So I do
believe that there's to be an intent,

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and the intent is something
that I believe, obviously the Holy Spirit.

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But it's not always about self.

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But there has to be something inside of us

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that is yearning for that.

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And with a desire like, as, as,

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unconventional obsession is a tool
and it can be used

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to, you know, strengthen
and move us forward.

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Or it could be used to,

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you know, take us away from the Lord
with other worldly desires.

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So I say, being, 
potential for obsession is.

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And that desire, if I'm making sense.

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Desire.

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That is a strong word,
especially when it comes to the physical

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and the spiritual.

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But we were thoughts on that.

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I want to hear from Christopher
and also Phillip Patti.

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But we have to
get back to that word desire.

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But thank you.

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I don't think we can really get rid

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of Idolization
if it one I think of like replacing it

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with something more useful spiritually

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like this.

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Is definitely

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something everyone struggles with.

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Like I feel like everyone's heightened
in the sense

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that you're working towards
getting rid of idolatry.

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These things
that you idolize from your life,

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they're just things where you can work
towards making something you know,

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you idolize in that sense.

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But then I think,

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can you entirely remove I don't feel like

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I feel like you like.

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In the same way of worship that if you can

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make God the most important thing

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and you have that like will

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and discipline
and you have that drive to make God

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the most important thing in your life,
and then you put everything else

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in on the sense that you're not getting
rid of it from your life completely.

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Enjoy it.

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Or you don't like,

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you don't have it
so important in your life

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that God and you can remove idolatry.

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It's just you're not removing that thing
from your life entirely.

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Just as opposed to like,

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okay, I'm going to counter that
a little, little, a little bit.

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So so you so you're saying
that can't remove it completely,

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but for yourself to go to center there
like you can work towards it.

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Do you think us as humans, us on this,

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being in the flesh, being in human form

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that we can generally
like really that full heartedly

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put God first?

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Answer yes.

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I think you just like, come across people
you like from your perspective.

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But these that they definitely put
God first in their life.

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And you can see how it works for the
I mean, you can see how they've

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accomplished that
and you're striving towards that yourself.

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I feel like you can

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you can't until you.

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What is putting God first like
give us your opinion or what you think is

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God first?

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I feel putting God first

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is he able to like,

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live a life
where everything you do is for God

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and everything you accomplish is
because of God and

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you're like very,

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not very vocal about it,
but it's very visible.

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The way you hold yourself back.

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The way.

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Yes. I you

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okay. Thank you.

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I know he's

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doing a little bit of picking that

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but I just wanted to get
a whole perspective of it.

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Now the other two what do you think.

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Also speaking about
do you think you can really put

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God first God center
while being in this flesh.

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I would say
just like Philip, we can. And

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the reason I say that is because, 
you know,

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because of God's grace,
we do have the ability

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to have, you know,

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a new spirit in Christ, you know,

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when in Christ, all things die away.

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And with that, we know that,

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we're part of a body.

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So in that sense,
even though there are, there is a war

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between that the flesh,
that of the spirit, as we know.

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That doesn't mean that desiring,

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the laws unfolding in me,
something that I can't just focus.

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But I guess

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one thing to be privy of is just the fact
that there always is that struggle.

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But just because it's a struggle
doesn't mean that,

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there isn't a focus,
and it doesn't mean that it's impossible

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because I don't I don't believe that,

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you know, the Lord told us to do something
that we're not able to do.

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We know that,

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through to his power.

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So to answer your question, yeah,
I do believe that we can have that focus.

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It's just that you have to be wary
of what can influence us to lose focus.

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So I see it.

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Okay, cool.

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Thank you.

410
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Christopher,
have you got anything to add on?

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I do when it comes to putting God
first, it's

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not really that we as humans,
not more like we do not allow him.

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That's what
please find the way to be in our lives.

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Whether it's through.

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Like him doing something you said

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in the book, the time.

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I think if we really try

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and allow God in our lives.

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To. Oh, okay.

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Cool. So

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from what you guys were saying, it's.

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Yes, we can really and truly put

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God as this center,
place him in the middle

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and literally live a life according
to what he wants.

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The to
go against what you guys are saying.

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So there's a bit of like opposite,

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why don't we do that?

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We know that God is great.

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We did everything that he wants for us
is righteous.

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We know that all he wants
is for us to be his children,

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for us to love him, for us to abide in him
and in us.

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All he wants is good for us.

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He was nothing, nothing,
nothing bad for us.

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So why don't we do that?

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Why don't we place him center?

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Why do we end up falling into idolatry?

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Why do we?
Why do some people end up falling

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into other religions
and other types of idolatry?

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Why, if we know that God,

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the one true living God, is so good for us
and was nothing but

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grace and mercy over our life was nothing
but us to have everlasting life.

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That's why we fully commit to him.

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Put him in the center.

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That is an open question
for whoever is ready to answer. Why?

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It's a reason as to why we don't do so.

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Is it the fact that we as human beings

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kind of go, so many things to influence
little of us, to,

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not understand not true
and or to actually not believe it.

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I don't see do you think that
if you truly understand that,

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then you will have that desire to do so?

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But but ultimately, as I mentioned,
we have to be proof to the fact

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that we're not free of influence.

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And it's very confusing
if you're not focused,

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to,

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have things take away,

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that truth or that understanding,
should I say of that truth

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and to fall into, you know, a
dark, a dark, you know, spiritual state

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and what it comes to focus, like focus
is, is an active thing.

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It's not a passive thing. So,

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if we're not

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constantly ensuring that, you know,

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we will make an object of our focus
and doing or actions

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and honor our spirit to him,
then we can easily be set.

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Of course,
we know that, there's little distractions,

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misinformation, disinformation,
all lot lies.

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You know, the when it comes to see it.

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And you know, the, the, the message
they send

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you, it's always to do with,

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having you doubt your identity in Christ
or in the Lord

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and fostering insecurity, fostering doubt,
fostering hate of oneself.

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So, yeah, we have to be privy
of all of the messages being sent our way.

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Anything that doesn't align with that,
we just have to be cognizant of and,

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not draw,
not please focus onto those things.

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But it's something that we have to do
and it's it's not done by ourselves.

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So it's something
we have to really pray about.

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And ensure that we
we ask for that focus of your attention.

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And we actually take a steps to, 
foster that because as we just,

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we're that we're putting our energy
into it as well focuses.

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So as I just mentioned, that's a it's just

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showing that we're focusing on the truth
and what matters.

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And you know, trying to,

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navigate around a

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lot of the influences, 
being, sent our way.

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Okay. Okay. Cool.

485
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Thank you very much.

486
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:16,440
So what we are putting our energy into
is becoming our focus and free influences.

487
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,440
Maybe that's awesome. Hindering. Okay.

488
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,200
I would say

489
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,200
I would say self that I can't do it
and that I'm doing.

490
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:31,080
So what I'm what I'm doing is when I wake
up, I pray, I read a chapter,

491
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,960
then I go into my phone
and do what I need to do,

492
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,960
which is like answer stuff
or read my emails and stuff.

493
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,400
And then throughout the day,
I have to also Bible study a chapter

494
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,640
and also throughout the day,
a prep point for each day in a month.

495
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,840
So I also have to pray on that,
that that prayer point.

496
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,600
And then the same thing when I go to
sleep, I've gotten now into the habit of

497
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,880
reading a chapter or two
before I go to sleep to calm my mind down,

498
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,640
and then and then pray
before I go to sleep for a and,

499
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:09,200
then things I can do better is will,
I think will be more in my prayer book.

500
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,080
Thus, personally speaking, that's
where my anointing is, is in prayer.

501
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,400
So if I pray more, not just Lord,

502
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,600
thank you
Lord for everything that and just said,

503
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,960
if I really stand up and stop praying
and properly intercede, and I'm also then

504
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,680
communicating
with God through intercession.

505
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,760
And another thing
I could do better would be,

506
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,160
communicating with him before I basically
I started to do it.

507
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,080
But then because I was
at a friend's house,

508
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,280
I started to not do it
because I was with someone else.

509
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,200
But get into that habit.
Oh, before I go to sleep.

510
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,240
Also,
I speak to God like a normal conversation

511
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,120
that high God like, how are you?

512
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,760
How's life up in heaven?

513
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,440
Like just really have that friendship
bond,

514
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,400
still knowing that you get this respect.

515
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,160
He's the king above king,
but the Lord above.

516
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,000
Not that I am his thoughts off,
but having that relational

517
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,160
like friendship,
but with respect that talk

518
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,680
where like how we would just like normally
talk to our friends and our family

519
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,000
have that normal talk
a good like just invite him, you know,

520
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,720
come Lord, like lay with me, sit with me
and let's just have a deep talk there.

521
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,600
Let me just, like, embrace your presence
and even know what I'm

522
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,440
talking, talking, talking
to. Okay? God is such a good listener.

523
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,520
But then there's times
when I need to shut up.

524
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,480
If you like God, like
if you need to speak to me, do it like I.

525
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,480
We all know how God speaks to us.

526
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,720
It could be through someone else.

527
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,760
It could be through your mind.
It could be free.

528
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,800
The Bible, it could be out on the street.

529
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,200
Could be through nature.

530
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,480
It could be now.

531
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,720
So I know that God speaks to me
through like my mind.

532
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,280
And the Bible said,

533
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,320
there are those two things
I just need to keep looking to God for.

534
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,080
Like God,
when you want to speak to me, I'm here.

535
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,440
You. I'm quiet.

536
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,920
So that I like.

537
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,160
So it's literally be still
and know that I am God.

538
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,800
So be still tomorrow and know that I will
speak to you when the time is right.

539
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,400
So that's me personally.

540
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,600
I don't always wake up listening
and pick up fighting,

541
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,960
which is something I've been told
quite a lot from my dad to start doing.

542
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,840
And I understand why.

543
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,200
Because I feel like
when you start the day that way,

544
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,880
you are starting to be correct
and you starting in the right mindset.

545
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,600
And I feel like I can't just be praying
in the mornings, praying in the evenings,

546
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,640
and I feel like I need to start

547
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,640
getting in the habit of reading my Bible,
reading what

548
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,800
I feel like
just being upset that time in the morning.

549
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,960
Like my parents go in prayer walks now,
so they wake up in the morning

550
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,600
and they attempt to every day
just go out for a walk

551
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,280
20, 30 minutes and pray together.

552
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,400
That's like, that's a really good,
mentality to have, especially

553
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,320
when we're trying to start
like weeding out small things

554
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,160
that we face in our lives 
that I feel like if you just start the day

555
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,400
that we entered, the day
that we do really good.

556
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,480
Stepping stone. I like not marriage,

557
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,840
I agree, I agree.

558
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,280
Just also add on to what you said
it's like.

559
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,000
Then the Lord's Prayer says,
give us this day our daily bread.

560
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,640
So when we wake up, it's not
our day is technically the Lord's.

561
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,800
Well, it is the Lord's
because he's given it to us.

562
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,360
Like just like when we wake up,
he's making us up just like that.

563
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,120
When we're breathing, it's

564
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,200
not our breath in our lungs,
it's his breath in our lungs.

565
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,080
So it's like a borrowed in a way.

566
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,040
So this is like
it was the day our daily bread,

567
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,400
that's what first came to
mind, was speaking.

568
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,000
It was like, we need to keep daily,
come in for that replenishment daily.

569
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,960
Come in for that bread daily.

570
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,480
Come in for the word daily.

571
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,640
Come into prayer daily. Fasting.

572
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,440
Just keep coming to God because we need
that refreshment and to keep going.

573
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,640
Like just praying in the morning and
praying in the night and keeping it going.

574
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,200
That's not daily bread.

575
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,520
It's just like not even like a ritual.

576
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,760
But it's more of, like a habit
that you're just doing it just to do it.

577
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,840
So I like what you said, and I agree 100%.

578
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,360
Outside.

579
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,920
Agree with what the mother of Philip
talking about say.

580
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,280
Definitely sink time side
first thing in the morning.

581
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:16,600
Church.

582
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,680
Should you read the word stuff
the day right?

583
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,480
I guess aligned correctly
for the day ahead because as you studies

584
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,560
are you mean to go what have that focus
initially and definitely

585
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,560
take more

586
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,640
take more intent
to create time for out the day,

587
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,840
whether it be a lunch break
or just before bed to really,

588
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,040
have that conversation with Lord,
as Lamar has said.

589
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,040
And then read the word, I feel the more

590
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,160
you find more opportunities

591
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,440
to form that connection, strengthen
that connection, the more focus you have,

592
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,640
and the less likely you'll be
to be influenced by outside factors.

593
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,120
I like that, I like that.

594
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,080
So it's just the voting.

595
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,880
That's what a lot of people,

596
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,880
especially young people,
they just need to devote their time,

597
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,920
even if it's a short period of time
or even when it's like

598
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,560
when you're in the shower, like just time
or even when you're on the street

599
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,360
and you have your headphones
on, just if you are like,

600
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,480
if you act like you're talking,
people won't know

601
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,800
that you're actually talking to God
or to yourself, that you're on the phone.

602
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,120
You get what I mean?

603
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,520
So it's like, I never thought about that.

604
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,520
That's. Yes. Oh yeah.

605
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,360
Because you could genuinely

606
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,320
be talking to yourself
and because you have your headphones on

607
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,880
or your earphones or whatever
you got in on your ears or on your head,

608
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,160
like people think you're obviously
talking to someone, you don't look crazy,

609
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,160
but you could really just be like, hi,
God, how are you?

610
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,800
Or be like, Because God's also our father.

611
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,000
He's our heavenly father.
He can be like that.

612
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,200
Like how a you like this
and that is going on in my life.

613
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,560
And who would know
that you're talking to God?

614
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,320
Who would actually know?

615
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:08,040
So it's another thing to do that
the more we implement little like scenes

616
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,360
into our life, the way that God,
then we can grow it through watering it.

617
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,160
And then before, you know,

618
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,160
we just bear fruit, like we just have
the fruit of the spirit in us,

619
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,160
and then we're just thriving spiritually.

620
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,080
And then when we thrive spiritually,
you also have physically.

621
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,280
Then before you know,
you have that holy glowing, you go.

622
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,520
But I mean, like,

623
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,520
I love what you got to say,
Chris, the before let's hear from you.

624
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,680
I like what you said about implementing.

625
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,200
First of all, I do like what I do.

626
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,960
Like if I have kids,
if I'm worrying about a test,

627
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,800
I think about God
and implement him into my daily life.

628
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,720
And then I live and breathe
God like it helps me to

629
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:52,000
think about what he's done for me
and what I can do for him.

630
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,400
Yes, gratitude.

631
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,880
Gratitude is a big, big, big thing.

632
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,240
I will say I agree with that

633
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:02,800
because it's like whenever we pray, like
I personally think I'm from experience.

634
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,480
Like the way we should pray is for

635
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,600
for gratitude first and then going on to
whatever you want to say.

636
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,920
So it's like, Lola,
thank you for waking me up.

637
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,000
Thank you for that.

638
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,320
Think about to share that you're grateful.

639
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,960
And then the blessings will come.

640
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,960
I love me, I love that,
I really do love ledger pleasure.

641
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,040
Okay. So thank you everyone.

642
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,040
Firstly for your input on such,

643
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,280
such a weird but needed topic.

644
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,120
I really, really, really do appreciate it.

645
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,040
And I hope that we've all learned
something from it.

646
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,800
We've all taken something from it
that there's some type of reflection

647
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000
happening so that we can understand,

648
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,080
like, what are we doing
that's not glorifying God?

649
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,560
And what do we need to change

650
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,760
in order to do, even if it's small or big,
no matter what it is,

651
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:59,320
keep giving your attention
sorry to God and stop your idols and

652
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,240
we'll continue to thrive.

653
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,880
And we'll all be in heaven one day.

654
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,400
Amen, Amen.
