1 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,200 Welcome to Young 2 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,640 Voices for Christ, a podcast brought to you by a passionate group 3 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,640 of young adults from Crofton Park Baptist Church here in South London. 4 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,520 Brockley. 5 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,560 Here they come together to share their faith, explore life's 6 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,800 big questions, and celebrate the journey of following Christ. 7 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,600 Join them as they delve into inspiring stories, engage 8 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,600 in discussions and heartfelt reflections, all aimed 9 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,600 at encouraging and uplifting your walk with God. 10 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,400 Whether you're seeking spiritual growth, community or just a dose of inspiration, 11 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Young Voices for Christ is here to light your path. 12 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:07,240 Good afternoon 13 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,360 and welcome to another episode of Young Voices for Christ. 14 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,560 My name is Clement Oke and I'm going to be, 15 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,160 talking to, Young Voices for Christ. 16 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,160 Members, we've got three on the call today. 17 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:21,720 We've got three. 18 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,160 We've got one on the call and two in the studio. 19 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,720 So if you'd like to introduce yourselves, we've got. 20 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,040 Hi, everyone. 21 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,040 My name is Amari Aiken. 22 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:32,960 Hey, everybody. 23 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:34,840 My name's Christopher. Okay. 24 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,480 And down the line we have, 25 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,400 This is Philippa. 26 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,720 Welcome, everybody. 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,600 So in this episode, we're going to be talking about how to make faith your home. 28 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,520 And the first question I've got for each of you is, 29 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,000 what do you think personal faith means? 30 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,400 And let's start with Philippa. 31 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,800 I think for me, personal faith is more like 32 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,000 the relationship you have with God on a one on one level, 33 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,920 because they'll be people who are raised into faith. 34 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,400 People who found faith later on in life, 35 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,920 and who go to church and have that sort of like communal safe. 36 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,960 I feel like personal faith is definitely 37 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,480 more of a one on one, 38 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,960 relationship that you have with God. 39 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,080 Thank you for them. 40 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,080 Tomorrow, what do you think 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,520 is literally the exact same thing? 42 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:37,600 So I totally agree that it's personal. 43 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:38,920 It's one on one. 44 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:41,480 It's like you believe it. 45 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,000 It also includes style. 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,000 So in school, it's. 47 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,080 I kind of put this. 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,840 It's it's all to do with you. 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,720 And in this case, I'm not going to know. 50 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,640 I think any, just any random person. 51 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:57,640 It's between you and God. 52 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:02,240 And it's again that what you do in that secret place, 53 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,680 how you communicate, how you think, how you act or intertwine 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,560 with what you believe, if that makes sense. 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,080 Yeah. It does. Yeah. 56 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,080 Christopher, do you want to get anything to that? 57 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,080 I'm not sure, but I'll try. 58 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,920 I feel like 59 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:23,920 it's kind of your understanding of 60 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:27,560 where you and God put together 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,400 rather than where, like you all with everyone around 62 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,040 you who's had their own personal experience of God. 63 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,280 It's more about how you find it rather than others. 64 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,560 Thank you for that. 65 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,160 So in the Bible, faith is defined as belief, and trust in God 66 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,560 is based on evidence without total proofs. 67 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,600 The Bible says, you know, it's a things that we, 68 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,640 trust in the things that we can't see, but we believe in. 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,360 Now, what if faith itself comes from Latin for there, which means to trust? 70 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,640 So faith is all about seeing Christian nodding and sweating 71 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,840 is giving you that the faith is all about, trusting. 72 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,160 It's about trusting. 73 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:09,480 Okay? 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,480 Is trusting in God even though we haven't seen her. 75 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,480 But you see evidence of God. 76 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,320 We read evidence of God. 77 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,120 So, I guess 78 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,120 if that's the case, you know, 79 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,400 could you kind of. 80 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,000 Let's move on to why is it important for you to have personal, 81 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:29,280 in your 82 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:32,480 faith, personally personal relationship with Jesus, in this case? 83 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,880 Why is that important? 84 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,160 I'm throwing it out to anybody. 85 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,560 Why is that? 86 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,760 I don't mind something. 87 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,720 Okay. 88 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,000 Close yours. 89 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,960 So I think it's important to have a personal faith. 90 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:51,560 Because if you just do like the surface level things, going to church 91 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,400 and acting seem like a good person and, like, doing 92 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,200 good deeds, you're not really benefiting yourself. 93 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,520 You're more just doing it for not really appearances, 94 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,360 but for your own, like, subconscious. 95 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,840 You're just being like, oh, I'm doing this so that I can say that I'm a Christian. 96 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:12,840 So I can say I'm doing all the things Christians do. 97 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,960 But if you have no personal relationship with God, then it's really all for naught. 98 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,960 You're not really doing much to better yourself in that sense. 99 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:23,080 Yeah. 100 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,080 In addition to that, any follow up on that? 101 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,440 I would say that it takes me back to 102 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,640 the fully equipped me up around the Bible. 103 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,720 Verse one is like, 104 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,560 do your access secret and then you'll be rewarded. 105 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,640 I mean, that's kind of what it brings to that. 106 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:47,160 If I'm having that one on one private time with God talking to him really heaven 107 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,480 and building that relationship with him in my own private time, 108 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,480 it would then show openly it wouldn't, 109 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,080 bear fruits openly. 110 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,240 And that's when people come in that, yes, that is a man of God. 111 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,400 That is a woman or something. 112 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,160 That's what mainly comes to mind. 113 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,200 Okay. 114 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,640 I think what you're talking about, there might be a of pointing, but I'm not sure. 115 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,240 Look at later. 116 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Chris, I mean, you know, it's like when because one of the things 117 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,400 this topic is talking about is how you move away from 118 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,200 that family faith, the you have to go to church, faith, you have to do this. 119 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:26,560 So why would you say it's important for you to develop 120 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,840 that kind of personal faith with Jesus, to put it, metaphorically. 121 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,160 So when you have a teacher, in that teaching, the entire class, 122 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,400 you're going to get distracted a lot because you're talking to your friends 123 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,880 and you don't pay attention to what they're teaching. 124 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,480 But like one on one tutoring, use 125 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,680 can all of the good of the teaching. 126 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,040 And then you pay attention. 127 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,560 This is kind of like one and one for good. 128 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,120 You're more likely to pay attention. 129 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,000 If it's just you and God, then you're more likely to understand 130 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,720 and then grow from that. 131 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,720 And so, 132 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,280 Are there any practical steps you think? 133 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,280 I mean, before we go to practical steps, actually, 134 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,280 we I think we probably ask this question when we're interviewing you 135 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,280 all in the early stages of this podcast 136 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,640 about your personal journeys of faith. 137 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,800 Well, how would you say your personal 138 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,240 faith is at this point in time if you were to do a health check 139 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,240 today, compared to maybe the first time you heard the word, 140 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,360 how would you say, what would you say? 141 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Your personal faith health check looks like today. 142 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,400 I'll start with tomorrow. 143 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,640 I would say 144 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,080 I'm very content with my faith in Jesus Christ. 145 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,880 I'm very happy with it because I'm not going to. 146 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,400 But I remember when there was a turning point 147 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,920 in which led me to this stage, and one of the turning point was 148 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,920 one of the turning points was 149 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,320 I was going through it, and I probably was actually what I was going through, but 150 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,640 I just felt like God wasn't there, like it was void, like ways of presence. 151 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,480 Like I'm struggling to read your word. 152 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,800 I can't pray, I'm tired, like, where are you at? 153 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,600 I need to let you see your real this is by the way, 154 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,600 this is when I'm baptized and I'm anointed like to give. 155 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,960 But you going to lose those moments. 156 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,960 And I was just like, where are you, God? 157 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,600 And then I just I cried on my bed. 158 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,760 This is when I used to live at home. 159 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,200 I was this grandmother crying on my bed. 160 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,000 And literally, you said no more about this. 161 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,800 Do I know that I am God? 162 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,680 He literally said that to. 163 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:49,960 And then from then on, 164 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,920 yes, pain gets tested. 165 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,400 It's all a part of the pruning process. 166 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,400 But I have not had doubt in him since. 167 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,240 To this day I could confidently say through all trials 168 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,520 and tribulations, through all successes and victory, is my faith 169 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:12,240 in Jesus Christ is Lord and that he is the one true God. 170 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,000 That he is above all other kings and powers and principalities, etc. 171 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,720 that I my my faith, hasn't with it. 172 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,680 I am praying for unwavering faith so and it has been, and I. 173 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,760 I will say that I don't have 174 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,360 no doubt that don't get me wrong, that can be tested, 175 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,320 but my doubt is very small if I have any. 176 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,960 But so far I think so good. 177 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,360 And it's all because of him 178 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,360 saying I'm very happy and content where I am with my faith. 179 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,120 And Chris, you are the youngest here and he might be patronizing you to say, 180 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,200 you know, you're probably too young to have had, 181 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,360 like a personal faith journey you can share. 182 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,800 But like I said, some people mistrust very early, so 183 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,320 if I also ask you the same question 184 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,680 about your personal health, 185 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:05,680 check on your personal relationship with Jesus, 186 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,800 what would you what would your answer be? 187 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,840 I'll put it as gradually spiking up, 188 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,200 but it's like slowly improving over time. 189 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,880 I think in 2024, let's say 190 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,840 a year where I just started to realize 191 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,320 and then I reflect on all the years 192 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,320 before the thing. Wow. 193 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,320 I didn't notice God was there for me, but he was. 194 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,040 And then now we try to be like that from God as well. 195 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,720 What I can do for him. 196 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,720 So, Pippa, same question to you. 197 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,920 That's a good answer, Chris. 198 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,400 So what's your what's yours like at the moment. 199 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,360 Who's to health check. 200 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,080 I would say 201 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,080 I'll probably have to classify it maybe two different ways. 202 00:10:56,680 --> 00:11:01,000 So I think when we think about what faith means definition gave 203 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,760 it was more like. 204 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,760 Whether or not you can believe without sin. 205 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:12,400 And I feel like that aspect of my personal faith has never wavered 206 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,440 from when I first, became a child of God. 207 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,160 But I would say maybe in the practicality sense, things like 208 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,680 going to church every Sunday, reading my Bible every day, 209 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,600 those kind of practical steps in your like, personal faith journey 210 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,720 probably has diminished from when I first 211 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,720 got baptized to now. 212 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,520 Okay, I'm actually happy to use the word practical steps 213 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:43,160 because I was going to talk about that because for, everyone has a personal 214 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,840 journey, which means we have a destination and a destination, eternal life. 215 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,520 Now we have different routes to that. 216 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,920 For some people it might be no straightforward one. 217 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,640 Everything's all good. 218 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,120 God's blessing. You like a question? 219 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,120 You know many problems until the devil comes along and says, you know, 220 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:05,680 take these guys for taking the wait and see what will happen to his faith. 221 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:07,200 Go figure. That happens to us. 222 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,200 And so we will have much more difficult journeys. 223 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,960 So for one of these things, for a journey, you need to keep yourself with stuff. 224 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,840 Naturally. You need to have the right resources, 225 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,240 to make the journey. 226 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,840 And we know we've talked about this before, about, the essentials, 227 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,840 which is spending time in prayer, 228 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,440 and reading the Bible. 229 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,920 And also when you talk about, you know, your faith hasn't wavered. 230 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,960 It's probably because you're looking back at how God has been good to you. 231 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,920 So, I know 232 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,280 I've been on my kids cases about, you know, reading your Bible. 233 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,760 Well, is there something about maybe finding the Bible reading plan 234 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,400 that works for you? 235 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,800 So at the moment, every morning or school morning, Christopher and I, 236 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,800 we read a verse while he reads a verse in John. 237 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,360 And hopefully my resonate with him. 238 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,800 But this is all about making faith your own. 239 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,640 So I'll start with Chris this time. 240 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,640 If you were to at least practical steps, it's all about, 241 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,800 making your faith your home. 242 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,040 How would you go about taking away 243 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,720 the dad element of like, you know, the family 244 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,760 element, you got to go to church and go to department every day. 245 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,200 It's time for prayer. It's your turn. 246 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,920 What steps do you think you could use to take ownership of that? 247 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,480 I feel like that would be very easy 248 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,240 to remove the family list, that part of that. 249 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,080 And normally when I want to do something that I really, 250 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,400 really want to do something, the boys find a way how to do it 251 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,440 no matter what the cost, no matter how I did it. 252 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,520 So, I just need that light spark 253 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,280 that inspires me, and, well, you've been there for me. 254 00:13:55,280 --> 00:14:00,760 Has been inspiring me to pick up the Bible on my own and, like, remind Facebook 255 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,680 to close the mirror. 256 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:05,560 Because I can see a smile. 257 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:08,560 Because I'm looking, 258 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,400 It's so real 259 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,560 when you say about, like, let's say 260 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:17,560 a Christian family and how, like 261 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:21,640 when a child is that they see what the parents are doing, 262 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,320 they fall in love doing, their parents are doing. 263 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,400 And it's like even something as simple as, 264 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,760 like going to church and just going to church. 265 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:35,360 And this Sunday school, maybe the family might be like, let's pray 266 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:40,120 or pray before you eat, or maybe every Saturday you do a bit of that. 267 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,680 So together it's so 268 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,440 it's so like normalized 269 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,440 especially in the church that, 270 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:53,080 that people just come just to come when we're 271 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,440 about having that faithful relationship with God without being baptized. 272 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,920 And before the spirit, there is no eternal life 273 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,200 like that is the that is the true honesty of it. 274 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,200 That is that is literally like period of it. So 275 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,920 when it comes to how I know for them and touch them. 276 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,920 But when it comes to 277 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,440 what like 278 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,240 what stepping away from what the family do. 279 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,240 Well, I think that's your case. 280 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,040 So I see it feels like you have a personal relationship with God. 281 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,120 You have a personal relationship with Jesus. 282 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:37,200 So, you know, not knocking, Christopher or Peter because I see this of them. 283 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,960 But it feels like even if your family stopped 284 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,960 coming to church, that wouldn't affect your faith in any way. 285 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,600 That's true. 286 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,120 But there's always an origin. 287 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,360 So I speaking about me now is very different to how 288 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,360 I was made some years ago. 289 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Because I'm only 18 soon out and I really got baptized 290 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,840 at the age of 12, so that was just a few good few chunk of years of 291 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,120 all different and 292 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,800 ups and downs and stationary and all over the place. So, 293 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,640 so far to. 294 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,560 So I'm just going to have to go back then 295 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,200 and ask you what practical steps did you take to get to where you are now 296 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,320 with your life, with your own personal relationship? 297 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,320 What would you what would you want to share? 298 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,280 Okay, so this worked for me. 299 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,760 I don't know if it worked for everyone else, 300 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,800 but self discipline can be either 301 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,800 your best friend or your worst enemy. 302 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,440 Give me so self 303 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,720 discipline as we go in there is basically no discipline. 304 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:43,560 No self-discipline. 305 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,240 You what it is so it can be your enemy. 306 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,760 And when you go against that, that you are more of a yolo like do what you want 307 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,560 or you can be like, no, I got this and this and this today, 308 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,160 and I need to do it now. 309 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,240 So the way that I was able to navigate, to increase my faith, 310 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,680 to increase my walk with God, was actually self-discipline and force. 311 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:11,240 That sounds so harsh, but it got me to where I am now, to the point where 312 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,480 I'm very content and I just want to keep elevating the elevation elevated. So 313 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,600 it starts from, 314 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,440 okay, I'm going to read my Bible today. You. 315 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,800 Then we have the beauty. 316 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,880 Have the force yourself up because the flesh it doesn't want to get up right. 317 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,080 The flesh wants to just lay down, relax and scrolling off. 318 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,400 And however our spiritual health is more important than our physical health. 319 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,720 So you need to go read the Bible. 320 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,280 Let's say you have a goal. 321 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,480 I'm going to read it in a chapter a day. 322 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,720 Just a chapter a day. 323 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,720 All you have to do is read a chapter a day. 324 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,040 But why is it so hard is because of your flesh. 325 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,800 So literally you have to force yourself to go pick up that Bible 326 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:01,120 and read it and 327 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,480 to walk past me. 328 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,480 It took me a long time. It took me months. 329 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,920 It took me like, okay, I'm going to read it. 330 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,800 I read a chapter today. 331 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,040 Okay. Tomorrow I'm going to try. 332 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,840 I really didn't do it day after. Okay, let me try. 333 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:13,600 Do it again. 334 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,560 I did it days ago. No, let me read my Bible. 335 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,800 It got to the point where I was getting angry at myself. 336 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,880 I got very upset at myself. 337 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,200 I got married at the Marina. This is not a good word. 338 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,960 So we need to read the Bible. 339 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,760 Or we need to go on our knees and pray. 340 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,920 We need to do something to get closer to God because that is the 341 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,520 ultimate way to reach where he wants you to reach, to get good. So. 342 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:40,800 So to cut a long story short, all I did was force myself. 343 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,160 I had to force myself. 344 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,400 And there'll be times when, you know, forcing yourself doesn't help. 345 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,400 But then that's where you have to be a god. 346 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,400 This change needs to happen. 347 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,160 I'm can't I can't read my Bible. 348 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,280 I can't pray without feeling tired. 349 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,280 I'm yawning. 350 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,560 Or when I go before I even go to sleep, I'm there to make it. 351 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,960 Jesus. And I know that time and time. 352 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,960 Let me give you my full self or my full energy that I am able 353 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:06,360 to go read that Bible. 354 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:10,600 And it took me time and, you know, is is that habits then become like a lifestyle. 355 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,840 Now, if we knew I was doing it every other day, 356 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,160 read my Bible, I was like, okay, okay, okay, let's keep going. 357 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,920 Thank you Jesus, give us strength as a parent. 358 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,360 They'll never number their every day. 359 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:23,560 Read a chapter every day of the day. 360 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,000 The man became a lifestyle and then before you then you go rejoicing. 361 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:27,480 You're happy. 362 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,120 You are learning new things. 363 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:30,960 All it is is to force 364 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,840 for yourself and you have to think up the bigger picture. 365 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,240 Maybe today I might be tired, but if I do it, 366 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,840 a blessing could come further down the line. 367 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,240 Someone else could ask me about something that I read, 368 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,040 but if I never read that, it's like you're blocking your own blessing. 369 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,040 So that's what I'm going to say. 370 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,200 It's not as good, in most things. 371 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,520 And I spoke about this on Sunday, like I said, about turning a routine 372 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,520 into a habit when it will come to you 373 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,120 without you having to put in the effort. 374 00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:04,600 And it's difficult for the first time. It's like a renewing. 375 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,760 So I'm going to learn to lose weight. 376 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,200 I'm going to be I'm going to eat healthy. 377 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,200 I'm going to do all the things we want to do for ourselves. 378 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,360 But the most important thing actually is for our spirit. 379 00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:17,560 Pippa, thank you all. Next to this one, 380 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,640 we'll have you answer this one way practical steps. 381 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,640 A few questions went flying around this. 382 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,880 I'm just trying to remember what the original question was 383 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,200 in terms of we know it's important for us to have a personal relationship with God, 384 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,400 and we know that it's difficult because of all the things we have to do, 385 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,600 whether it's preparing for exams or, 386 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,600 studying or family drama. 387 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,320 Which I need to know how that works. 388 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,320 Then. 389 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,880 So how do you maintain what practical steps can you use to maintain 390 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,920 your personal, faith journey? 391 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,720 I think 392 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,880 it's important to find some sort of enthusiasm about it, 393 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,800 because when I think back to how I started this journey, 394 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,560 it was because I found a place 395 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,560 I heard a message that I think resonated with me, 396 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,040 and it felt like, oh, this isn't something that I just do when I'm an adult 397 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,640 and I start going to church by myself, when my parents know God 398 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:18,040 and it's more like, 399 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,080 oh, this is actually something that is current and relevant to me now 400 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,360 and something that I can engage in and actually have fun with. 401 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:31,920 I think, going to the, teen retreat camp when I was 13, 14, 402 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,920 I think that was something for me that I'd never seen before, because 403 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,640 unfortunately, our church doesn't really have the youngest demographic, 404 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,880 so it always felt like church was a thing for, 405 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,920 I don't know, just older people until I saw people my age 406 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,880 who was like really zealous and really excited about the world 407 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,800 and excited about these routines of like having a once a morning prayer walk, 408 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,640 having like these retreats together every year and it was just, 409 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,000 I think it was something like that that inspired me to really, 410 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,000 go for that personal 411 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,000 roots of faith. 412 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,360 I think that seeing that enthusiasm and seeing that like 413 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,200 that attitude towards having a personal relationship with God. 414 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:25,040 So I think that's one practical step, just being engaged and enthusiastic 415 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,160 about the word and about that relationship would definitely help. 416 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,680 I think what's interesting about, you know, sorry, what you said 417 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,960 when you said that, what's interesting about how you, 418 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:40,880 kind of came to realization that this isn't just for old people. 419 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,440 It feels like you found friends who. 420 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,560 So this is almost like a community kind of faith versus individual faith. 421 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,360 And why, while the private devotion is important because spending time with 422 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,680 your father is important, 423 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,560 being part of the wider community of believers is also important 424 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,000 because those are the things that encourage your growth. 425 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,720 And like you say, growth in the church at the moment isn't, a wash. 426 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,320 It's, people your age. 427 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,000 So it feels like it's got less to offer you. 428 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,800 So coming to that church actually might even be discouraging. 429 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,800 Like, might be harming your faith in a way, 430 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,880 if your first if your personal faith is not strong, 431 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,320 not being around people to encourage you who understand what it is 432 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,160 you're going through, what kind of things you deal with on a daily basis can harm. 433 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:33,680 So how 434 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,720 as people who can't go love, just church, 435 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,880 how do you overcome that? 436 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,480 Because you're allowed to go to church. 437 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,240 You leave church, you love to have your friends. 438 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,240 So how do you overcome that challenge? 439 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,280 Do you want me to take that one first? 440 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,200 Yeah. Please do. 441 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,440 I think specifically with me, it's a bit interesting 442 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,480 because everyone who was my age, me 443 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,800 growing up in the church, has left 444 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,400 or is somewhere else, really. 445 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,720 And I don't really get to sit in most of the sermons anymore 446 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,520 because I'm either working and doing the creche or I'm at uni. 447 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:22,960 So I think we've crossed paths specifically. 448 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,240 I feel like. 449 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,320 I don't know, I feel like it's 450 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,880 a difficult question for me because I'm not really engaged 451 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:38,240 as much as I 452 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,240 am maybe in boss, even though I'm not part of 453 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,400 any of like the volunteers within the church I go to, and it's 454 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,200 more like there's still that community, those people my age, 455 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:52,960 people who I see around campus when I go to classes, 456 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,320 people who like meets up for like maybe a weekly lunch 457 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,760 or Bible reading or something like that. 458 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,760 But, with this podcast, I feel like that's definitely 459 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,320 like a an encouraging sight. 460 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,360 I will say that's good. 461 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,560 And that's part of the reason why I like to keep it weekly so 462 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,560 it can be in touch regularly about this kind of thing. 463 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,160 So of. 464 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,520 I think it's very different for me 465 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,880 because I have a new site 466 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,200 for churches to maintain that I can. 467 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,400 It's the one in my accommodation, there's one, whereas 468 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,160 and my daughter goes to this one and there's another one. 469 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,000 And so my community is not 470 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,720 just based around one church, 471 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,080 it's based around quite a few. So, 472 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,720 this question kind of doesn't 473 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,160 apply too much to me because, 474 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,240 in terms of like fellowshipping, it's quite versatile. 475 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,760 It's quite open. 476 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,960 And then I have many friends in different churches 477 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:12,480 and even outside of church, somehow God's still been able to, 478 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,120 connect me with, other people, specific people, and increase their faith. 479 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,800 But 480 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,200 speaking from across the Park 481 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,760 church, we I would say 482 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,480 that it's okay because 483 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,040 I what do I say to, if you are so 484 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,880 like lonely or because that there's not other people your age group. 485 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:42,040 Now, I forget that in the Bible also speaks about the elders. 486 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,360 So even the elders you can learn something from. 487 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,640 I'm speaking to elders that have been in Christ and are still in Christ. 488 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,760 You can learn something from 489 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,120 and learn from the ones that are anointed and filled with the Holy Spirit 490 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:59,560 that, able to also direct you and help you find them and craft the book. 491 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,680 I have my chat to grandma, I guess, say hello and sometimes 492 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,720 you'll look at me, my eyes, and she will say something, 493 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,080 and then it's ever based on my situation or something that's going to come up. 494 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,720 So that's one way and another way is just be out there. 495 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,640 There's always some type of community, some type of society, 496 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,400 even inside of university and outside of university. 497 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,680 But there's always something even online, even online, because, 498 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,000 I know it's online because even on discord, my discord, 499 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,040 I have somehow reached out to someone and they do a whole prayer 500 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,200 meeting for an hour. 501 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,880 So there's always somewhere 502 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,040 where God is there and God can be heard through another group of people. 503 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,160 So even if, 504 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,040 I'm not just going 505 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,160 to say cross them, but any church that may not have your 506 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,600 like your age group, or maybe they're too old or too young, or maybe the age 507 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,720 group who, if you don't maybe fit in, there's always somewhere for you to be. 508 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,640 And even if there's not, pray about it. 509 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,000 Like keep praying about it and just be like, God help me. 510 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,760 I want to find a Christian family and financial results for God. 511 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,680 I want to find someone here 512 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,400 who has the same interest in me and he will direct your path. 513 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,360 Amen. You know, it's 514 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:18,000 there's we learn to go 515 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000 to have the benefits of, you know, 516 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,160 other places of worship and, other networks. 517 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,000 So what would you say the challenge is for you 518 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,520 today, for instance, every Sunday school, what do you do, 519 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,120 knowing that it's important to find friends and mentors to encourage 520 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:34,960 your growth? 521 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,960 How do you see that as a challenge and what do you think? 522 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,600 What do you think about that? 523 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,680 I don't think it's really a challenge. 524 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,440 I think it's more than the obstacle I can overcome with God. 525 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:47,920 Okay. 526 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,920 As a young person, I'm like a sponge. 527 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,800 I know the previous 528 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,800 generations of the student, 529 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,360 they have a lot of experience about their own personal experience with God. 530 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,800 And I absorb all of the. 531 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,280 And sometimes, some memories. 532 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,200 It hurts grandma. 533 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,200 And they just tell you that a piece of advice 534 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,320 I can they. 535 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,320 Okay, well, I'm going to, 536 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,520 read a few verses from First 537 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,600 Thessalonians chapter four as a bit of encouragement. 538 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,640 I'll start from. 539 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,520 Verse one. 540 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,760 King James Version seems to be everybody's currency, 541 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,080 but I've been recently listening while reading the English translation 542 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,200 because it sounds more like present day English. 543 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,840 The message goes a bit too far for me, but it's also good. 544 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,000 So finally then, brothers and sisters, 545 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,920 we ask you to, urge you in the Lord Jesus 546 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,560 as he received instruction from us about how you must live and please God 547 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,120 as you are in fact living, that you do so more and more. 548 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,640 For you know what commands we gave you through the Lord Jesus. 549 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,280 For this is God's will, that you become holy, 550 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,040 but you keep away from social morality. 551 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,360 Each of you knows how to possess his own body in holiness and honor, 552 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,520 not in lustful passion like the Gentiles who do not know God. 553 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:17,680 In this month. 554 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,800 So is this matter? 555 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,480 No one should violate the rights of his brother 556 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,760 or take advantage of him, because the Lord is the avenger. 557 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,600 In all of these cases, as we also told you earlier, who will do something for God? 558 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,600 Do not call us to impurity, but in holiness. 559 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,160 Consequently, the one who rejects this is not rejecting 560 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,160 human authority, but God who gives His Holy Spirit to you. 561 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,120 So, this is kind of my encouragement, to kind of, like, 562 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,800 hide in the word of the Lord. 563 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,120 You will come across temptations, no doubt. 564 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,120 And the biggest temptation is not to bring or not 565 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,080 spend time with God or not to read the Bible. 566 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,360 And I think one thing to reflect on would be maybe. 567 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,360 Look, tomorrow, I said about 568 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,640 at first it was hard, 569 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,920 but if you commit to something and say, okay, a chapter a day, 570 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,120 just commit to it and then see where that takes you. 571 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,560 Like I said, for most journeys different. 572 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,120 Just pray that we'll continue to encourage each other in our personal journey. 573 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,720 So personal faith journeys, and just be around people 574 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,840 who will encourage you to do so. 575 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,560 But also a bit of a challenge, a bit of a stretch 576 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,560 exercise, encourage others. 577 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,600 Encourage others in their faith. 578 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,440 Those of you who have been faith, 579 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,160 boldly speak about your faith. 580 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,160 Bring your faith and everything you're talking about. 581 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,240 Some people would say, not necessarily preaching to them, but let them see 582 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,840 that you are a child of God. 583 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,760 So thank you for joining us. 584 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,200 Next week we're going to be, discussing 585 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,440 dealing with stress and anxiety as a Christian. 586 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,800 So we'll hopefully come with your thoughts on that. 587 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,200 Thank you very much. Bye, everybody. Okay. 588 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,040 Well.